Jump to content


Photo

Seating Assignments


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 OFFLINE   Ezra T.

Ezra T.

    Cadet

  • Member
  • 23 posts
  • Age: 17
  •  

Posted January 8, 2012 @ 03:39 PM

Some of us may know what seating assignments on rigs are. They do avoid confusion of who does what on scene, because your job is listed at your seat in the truck. You would be written under a position on the board prior to a call, and when you gear up you know where you are sitting on what rig. FDNY uses this system, and so does the department I respond from. So what departments do you know of that use this system, and what's your opinion on it?

"Train as if your life depends on it, because it does."


#2 OFFLINE   fdny1075thebox

fdny1075thebox

    The Chairman of the Board

  • Member
  • 399 posts
  • Age: 21

Posted January 8, 2012 @ 03:52 PM

It's a great system in my opinion. Most paid departments and a few volunteer departments use it. You sit in the same seat on the rig and you know what your job is when you get to the scene.

Some departments have assignments to certain seats, but not the members themselves: not a plan I'm too crazy about. Thus, if you're sitting in the hydrant man seat, you're the one whose got to tie in to the hydrant at the scene of a fire. If you sit somewhere else, you've got to do the job that the seat is assigned. In my opinion, if a department's going to do that, they should assign a specific member to that seat to do a specific job, like on a board the way FDNY does it. That way, it makes things a whole lot easier. Plus, when see your name on an assignment on "the board", you'll also see other members' names, giving you an idea of who will do what and even where they'll be on the scene.

However, the problem is that this may not work for a lot of volunteer departments, unless there's always at least few people there. To have members with seating assignments, you need to have a good-sized crew.

E.M.

Liberty City (Lego) FD


#3 OFFLINE   Martijn Meijdam

Martijn Meijdam

    Pantless I tell you!

  • Member
  • 695 posts
  • Age: 28
  •  

Posted January 9, 2012 @ 11:35 AM

Over here in Belgium we use the same system.
Very handy

#4 OFFLINE   Dakota

Dakota

    Administrator

  • Administrator
  • 1,311 posts
  • Age: 24

Posted January 9, 2012 @ 01:31 PM

Our system is a little different. The Engineer and OIC seats are always up front of course, but in the back those assigments are assigned at the start of shift, and not by which seat you're in.

We have a board with the following listed out by velcro tags:

3824
OIC: ______________
Engineer: __________
Nozzle: ___________
Back Up: __________
Control: ___________

The OIC will fill this out at the start of shift before we do our truck checks. Typically only the first 3 are filled out for a shift.


#5 OFFLINE   fdny1075thebox

fdny1075thebox

    The Chairman of the Board

  • Member
  • 399 posts
  • Age: 21

Posted January 9, 2012 @ 02:40 PM

Here's how the FDNY does it for a basic structure fire and who does/carries what.

For an Engine Company it's:
  • Chauffeur/ECC/MPO - Drives apparatus and operates pump panel.
  • Officer - Firefighter in charge and carries a flashlight and radio.
  • Nozzle - Takes nozzle position on hose line and carries 1-2 lengths of hose.
  • Back-Up - Carries an additional length of hose.
  • Door - Carries an additional length of hose, feeds it through door/hallway, and joins the Nozzle and Back-Up men.
  • Control - Monitors hose, stretches it, keeps track of it, relieves Door man, and assists Chauffeur.
For a Ladder Company it's:
  • Chauffeur(Driver)/LCC - Driver apparatus, carries axe or haligan, and operates ladder.
  • Officer - Firefighter in charge and carries a flashlight and a mini-haligan.
  • Can - Carries a 6' hook and a 2.5gal. extinguisher(can).
  • Irons - Carries axe and haligan(irons), a hydra-ram, and a Partner saw(Taxpayer Fire Only).
  • OV(Outside Vent) - Vents structure and carries a 6' hook, haligan, and Partner saw(Top Floor Fire Only).
  • Roof - Vents the roof and carries a 6' hook, haligan, roof rope, and Partner saw.

E.M.

Liberty City (Lego) FD


#6 OFFLINE   Bruce

Bruce

    Senior Captain

  • Community Admin
  • 420 posts
  • Age: 30

Posted January 9, 2012 @ 03:48 PM

Here's how the FDNY does it for a basic structure fire and who does/carries what.

For a Ladder Company it's:

  • Chauffeur(Driver)/ECC/MPO - Driver apparatus, carries axe or haligan, and operates ladder.
  • Officer - Firefighter in charge and carries a flashlight and a mini-haligan.
  • Can - Carries a 6' hook and a 2.5gal. extinguisher(can).
  • Irons - Carries axe and haligan(irons), a hydra-ram, and a Partner saw(Taxpayer Fire Only).
  • OV(Outside Vent) - Vents structure and carries a 6' hook, haligan, and Partner saw(Top Floor Fire Only).
  • Roof - Vents the roof and carries a 6' hook, haligan, roof rope, and Partner saw.


What does ECC/MPO stand for?
Posted Image

#7 OFFLINE   Chris Sullivan-Irwin

Chris Sullivan-Irwin

    Mr. Evil Doctor Porkchop

  • Member
  • 338 posts
  • Age: 19

Posted January 9, 2012 @ 04:40 PM

My department is dery different from most departments since for a normal shift we have 3 firefighters and the chief on duty and they have an option of using 1 of 3 rigs, but they almost always use Engine 201 which is ALS equiped and then we will have volunteers respond to the station to get a second rig if needed. As for seating we still have the same system of seating as most of america where the driver drives (obviously) and the officer sits next to the driver and then the can man behind the driver.

- Explorer Post 885 Asst. Chief - Lego Scotia Fire Department (Lt. FF/FEO) - Alplaus Vol. Firefighter -

 

 


#8 OFFLINE   fdny1075thebox

fdny1075thebox

    The Chairman of the Board

  • Member
  • 399 posts
  • Age: 21

Posted January 10, 2012 @ 02:58 PM

What does ECC/MPO stand for?

Engine Company Chauffeur and Motor Pump Operator. They mean the same thing.

LCC is Ladder Company Chauffeur. Both ECC and LCC are abreviations.

E.M.

Liberty City (Lego) FD


#9 OFFLINE   Chris Sullivan-Irwin

Chris Sullivan-Irwin

    Mr. Evil Doctor Porkchop

  • Member
  • 338 posts
  • Age: 19

Posted January 10, 2012 @ 09:54 PM

Engine Company Chauffeur and Motor Pump Operator. They mean the same thing.

LCC is Ladder Company Chauffeur. Both ECC and LCC are abreviations.

you put LCC for the ladder company and ECC for the engine company for the list.

- Explorer Post 885 Asst. Chief - Lego Scotia Fire Department (Lt. FF/FEO) - Alplaus Vol. Firefighter -

 

 


#10 OFFLINE   Bruce

Bruce

    Senior Captain

  • Community Admin
  • 420 posts
  • Age: 30

Posted January 10, 2012 @ 09:59 PM

Engine Company Chauffeur and Motor Pump Operator. They mean the same thing.

LCC is Ladder Company Chauffeur. Both ECC and LCC are abreviations.


Here in California we just call them Engineers or Apparatus Operators.
Posted Image

#11 OFFLINE   Dakota

Dakota

    Administrator

  • Administrator
  • 1,311 posts
  • Age: 24

Posted January 10, 2012 @ 10:03 PM

My department is dery different from most departments since for a normal shift we have 3 firefighters and the chief on duty and they have an option of using 1 of 3 rigs, but they almost always use Engine 201 which is ALS equiped and then we will have volunteers respond to the station to get a second rig if needed. As for seating we still have the same system of seating as most of america where the driver drives (obviously) and the officer sits next to the driver and then the can man behind the driver.


Thats the same as how it is where I work, but we just have the 3 on duty and a fulltime fire inspector who doesnt respond to calls.


#12 OFFLINE   Lee C

Lee C

    Senior Captain

  • Member
  • 110 posts
  • Age: 17
  •    

Posted January 11, 2012 @ 03:11 PM

This seating assignment is pretty unknown around here, which I wish would change. The only companys here that use them are Live-In and Career companys (such as Berkeley Hills (Live-In) and Pittsburgh Bureau of Fire (Paid of course). But most companies just use whatever they can work with.
Lee Crowder
Mt. Lego Fire
www.mtlegofire.weebly.com

#13 OFFLINE   Jackeatley

Jackeatley

    Charlottesburg Fire / EMS : GOLD Command.

  • Member
  • 914 posts
  •  

Posted January 11, 2012 @ 03:29 PM

We tend to use a simalur but simplified system in the UK on frontline apparatus, a riders board is attached in the cab and specifies where people sit, the 2 on the sides would act as the BA wearers, and the person in the middle would be the BA control officer or ECO, sometimes called a first aid position, there was a fantastic photo showing a riders board from my local brigade, clearly showing all the assigned positions but i can't find it, however here is a photo i found of the front cab, showing the yellow roleboard
Posted Image
Source http://http://www.birminghamiu.com/erdington-fire-station/
James Keatley (IALFF VP of Public Relations)
City of Charlottesburg FD (IALFF #999)

#14 OFFLINE   IAFFCarl

IAFFCarl

    Probie

  • Member
  • 32 posts
  • Age: 25

Posted January 15, 2012 @ 09:35 PM

our shift runs 7 guys, an Lt./3 Firerfighter/Medics/3 Firefighter/EMT-Bs. 2 are assigned to the primary ambulance. 4 are assigned to the primary engine and the last man cross staffs the second ambulance and drives the ladder when volleys arrive. our assignments are based on the seat in the vehicle:


Drivers Seat: Apparatus Operator
Fron Passenger Seat: Company Officer
Seat behind Driver: Forcible Entry/Search
Seat Behind Officer: Nozzle/Hydrant
Seat in Middle (when staffed)" Hydrant/Backup
Pro-Board Firefighter Level II
IFSAC Firefighter Level II
IFSAC Fire Instructor Level I
NREMT-B
NAEMT-AMLS
NAEMT-TCCC
KY-EMT-B
KY-400 Hr. Level Firefighter
OH-240 Hr. Level Firefighter

#15 OFFLINE   Alpha Tango

Alpha Tango

    Senior Captain

  • Member
  • 206 posts
  • Age: 33

Posted January 17, 2012 @ 07:19 PM

Our volunteer department doesn't have seat assignments. The driver runs the pump if the vehicle has one. The person riding shotgun is in charge of the people during the call. The shotgun makes the radio calls and based on who made the truck, hands out assignments based on the incident commander's instructions. If an officer doesn't make it on scene first, the shotgun becomes the IC and runs the show.

As for those that arrive at the station when the tones drop, we might assign people to certain trucks based on skills and the call type, if we have the manpower to do so. Otherwise, it become a learning experience.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

Hello Guest! :wave:

Please take a few seconds to sign up for an account. Or if you are already a member, please sign in!